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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.20 22:00:00 -
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Nuclear for base load generation
Coal for everything else.
Renewable in areas where it is viable.
Remember we have close to or over 300+ years of good high quality anthracite coal still. its a hard coal that burns clean.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.21 03:59:00 -
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Main flaw of nuclear is that it sucks for Variable output.
But we should use it for close to 100% of what is called base load. Base load is the average load of the grid 24/7.
Nukes own all other forms of generation for this because they are ment to run at 100% rated load 24/7 without slowing down.
Fossil fuels are good for variable loads because you can turn those plants on and off with minimal effort, can light up a coal or oil plant likely in a few hours.
Solar is terrible for grid scale, but it is getting popular for offsetting local usage. as in if you get lots of sun you can put em on a roof and help take some of the load of that building off the grid(even taking just the HVAC off grid on a really hot and sunny day will help greatly)
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.21 16:51:00 -
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Well coal can be clean, but right now only the west cares about clean smoke stacks. China is building a ton of coal plants but if their power generation is like the rest of their industry they simply don't give a **** about pollution.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.22 01:10:00 -
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The current issue for renewable sources, Hydro, Solar or Wind is they are not viable in all locations. now coastal areas can build the wind turbines off shore(as long as rich idiots dont prevent the projects like what is known to happen here in the US, Even though the farms are built so far off shore you would need a telescope to see them from the house).
Solar Thermal is really only viable in the deserts or other regions that do not see frequent clouds.
and Hydro to make notable energy usually needs a place you can flood and have a really big dam(Hoover Dam puts out as much power as a nuclear plant and was built in the 30s).
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.22 19:56:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candlewood_Lake
Is an example of how the electric grid can "store" power, basically setups like this are the only feasible method for power storage with current engineering.
Of course it still requires a big place to put a lake, this one near my home town is Small in Mw output but still takes up a large part of a state.
I guess a Positive offset of any type of Hydro is the Lake becomes an economic gain to the area. Problem in China is they did not do the research, Three Gorges is not in the most stable area for a Dam and is one reason it could have problems. Compare to ones like Hoover Dam which are anchored into solid rock walls.(honestly though to see Hoover in person, it really could be one of the man made wonders of the world, how they built things like that and the Empire State Building without all the fancy load testing of today is amazing).
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.22 23:29:00 -
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What about governthermal energy? where by we put heat extractors in government buildings and use the hot air from politicians to generate power.
as a side we can burn the bull**** they spew as well!
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.24 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker I like clean nuclear power... look at Pripyat, no one there litters at all and it's all because of the nuclear plant
And just think of the Turkeys they produce there, I hear that nobody has to fight over the drumsticks again even a family with more than two kids...... Patented Chernobyl "No Fight" Turkeys. Geese and Chickens available on demand, Ducks if we could get em to land.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.24 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
Originally by: Intense Thinker I like clean nuclear power... look at Pripyat, no one there litters at all and it's all because of the nuclear plant
And just think of the Turkeys they produce there, I hear that nobody has to fight over the drumsticks again even a family with more than two kids...... Patented Chernobyl "No Fight" Turkeys. Geese and Chickens available on demand, Ducks if we could get em to land.
We could use some Comp B or comp C-4 to blow the radiation up into the air... that'd probably get a few ducks
If the Duck started to glow green do you think it would be like a shooting star if it flew fast enough?
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.24 20:39:00 -
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OMG Tracer Ducks, new ammo for the Mythbusters Chicken Gun!
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.25 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Slate Shoa Edited by: Slate Shoa on 25/08/2010 02:29:35 Dear people who think nuclear power hurts the Earth's environment more than coal:
Please read this article: A Second Look at Nuclear Power by Paul Lorenzini, "a retired PacifiCorp executive and former general manager of contract operations at DOEÆs nuclear defense facilities in Hanford, Washington."
If you don't trust my link, search google for the article.
Summary: Paul Lorenzini starts out discussing the outcomes of the renewable energy source movement. Paul shows that the renewable energy source movement has made worse the problems which it aimed to erase, and actually increased the use of fossil fuel energy sources. An estimate of the public fatalities from the use of fossil fuels is given, and then a comparison to nuclear power is given. Paul talks about "environmentalists" and their contradictory stance of opposing nuclear power. Mr. Lorenzini then tries to explain the reasons for historically fierce opposition to development of nuclear power in the United States. Paul then talks about the nuclear-power-plant and waste-disposal regulation roadblocks facing the development of nuclear power. Lastly, Paul explains what needs to be done before nuclear power is set for unimpeded development.
Nuclear still has a fatal flaw....
NIMBY.
without NIMBY there would be more of them.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.25 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter Edited by: Lance Fighter on 25/08/2010 04:10:51
Originally by: Akita T I would freaking build my own personal nuclear reactor in the basement and flip the birdy to all power companies if I could get the permits for its construction and operation.
me too. Most particularly the part where when the power goes out, my house will still have lights
Oh yeah, and i suppose extra income from selling power to the grid might be nice. edit nuclear computer power supply anyone?
Hey man dont joke about that...
when the Nvidia Geforce 785GTX comes out odds are it will need a nuclear power supply to run the card or the liquid helium plant to cool it. or both.
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